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November 21, 2015

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Electric Motorcycle

by biker1

Electric Motorcycle – Jay Leno’s Garage

It’s an awesome looking bike. I’d ride one if it were a reasonable price and range of at LEAST 200 miles. Otherwise good luck getting riders to buy one.

This is certainly a good-looking motorcycle, but I would think the real question whether or not it would be a success is what the retail cost is going to be compared to their gas models.

Plus, we need details about what the real world range would be and the time necessary to recharge the battery. Also, on all electric vehicles, as the batteries age they hold less of a charge and so their range decreases.

Lastly, what is the batteries effective life? This is important as far as potential resale values go. Let’s say the battery lasts an average of three years and cost $1500 to replace. It would seem to me that if my hypothetical battery life than replacement cost was in the ballpark it would be detrimental to the resale value.

So, sure the bike in look and sound good and environmentalist may like the concept, but in the real world will it be a success or a failure?

 

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  1. Nov 25 2015

    If you look at this carefully, it is probably marketing prototype-meaning there is long way to sell these bikes for all users. Why? When you look at the problem with batteries, OK Li-Ion batteries are not heavy at all, but still you have to load them after pretty short distance. So how are you planning your trip? After available free el-plugs? And if the batteries are empty and you are somewhere – maybe even in place you do definitely want to stop- you have to walk-or run depending on situation. So this all means it will be city bike for short distances. Next point is more big picture; suppose we would move quickly to electric vehicles, which all have to be loaded. Where do we take all this electricity from? Think also about the loading ampers , loading time, wire thickness and needed electrical systems for this. In my opinion the bikes are staying in highly developed combustion engines for a while.
    If alternative, I myself would go to full hybrid either with combination of one-speed combustion engine loading only battery (as long as enough liquid energy on board you can move forwards, and that is available very quickly and easy). “And what do we do with the drunken sailor” or in this case the battery at the end of life-time (think about maximum life-time of battery in areas like Death Valley with 1 year) . And do you know anything about the production process of batteries today, multiplied with the future needs if we go in this direction. That is really not environmental-friendly process.
    I carry an idea of combining hydraulical pressure to move a bike/3-wheeler loaded by DC motor. What do you think about that. No fuel burning, no battery loading, no emissions nowhere (not even producing the needed energy), autonomous by simple lever to pump up pressure to get forwards if everything is at 0. OK sounds a bit strange, but simulated with 70 bar pressure (today 350 bar accus available) and 150kg vehicle weight, it acelerates in about 6 seconds from 0 to 150 km/h and by doing several accelerations in a cycle of 45 sec needed refilling time of 6 sec. So what would happen with 350 bar? I can assure you thet FUN FACTOR would definitely be there. And we would definitely need a smart ECU to control all this. But the efficiency to load/unload (loading possible during braking) much higher than in electrical system. You can produce moto gp bike for 10 seconds. I know very well this is not ready yet and the problems will start in details on the way, but idea is not bad isn’t it?

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  2. Dec 10 2015

    The future is electric. Before the introduction of electric vehicles there should be a network of fast chargers available for a reasonable price. This will take away the fear of range anxiety. Such a network is established in countries like Estonia (!) and the Netherlands. A change towards electric mobility will be achieved within 60 months in these countries. The necesary electric vehicles are on the market or will be introduced shortly. Cars like the Nissan Leaf (30KW) and BMW i3, motorcycles like the Zero DS, Victory Empulse TT and Energica Ego (capable of fast charging).

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